Windows 7 - IE garbage
Asked By Robert Baer on 16-Jul-12 11:02 PM
Pick almost any version of IE; why the (*#$@#(*&$! does it render a
site offline DIFFERENTLY than online?
All of the files and subfolders are exactly the same.
Is there ANY way to "make" IE render offline in he same manner as online?
VanguardLH replied to Robert Baer on 17-Jul-12 12:34 AM
Internet Options -> Advanced tab -> Security section
Allow active content from CDs to run on My Computer
Allow active content to run in files on My Computer
Computer. Here "My Computer" refers to a security zone. Be default, IE
shows the following security zones: Internet, Local Intranet, Trusted,
and Restricted Sites. There is another security zone called "My
Computer" which is not normally visible. You can add it with a registry
The This is a per-user setting. You need to be logged under the account
in which you want the My Computer security zone to be displayed or be an
admin user and edit the HKU entries for each account for the change to
be effected under those accounts. To effect the registry change, after
making the change, click F5 in regedit.exe (or unload it) and unload all
instances of IE (iexplore.exe). To see the new My Computer security
zone, do not run IE and use its Tools -> Internet Options menu. Instead
use the Internet Options applet in Control Panel.
While I could add the My Computer security zone to the Security tab in
Internet Options, I do not bother. You do not have to display the My
Computer security zone in the Security tab of Internet Options for the
two "My Computer" options above. The above settings are probably
sufficient to get active content to function in your web pages which are
in local files. Just remember that if you are not the own coding those
local web pages that you have not permitted anyone to run any code
inside a web page that you saved locally. If you are using a web crawler
to steal the content of someone else's site, you will be granting them
the same permissions for their code as the account under which you login
and run their code.
For issues regarding Internet Explorer, a better newsgroup more focused
on that product is:
Robert Baer replied to VanguardLH on 19-Jul-12 12:47 AM
Thanks; i will see what that does.
Also, using IE8, it always bitches about active-X and i have tried
almost everything in the security section to no avail.
How do i fix that?
Robert Baer replied to Robert Baer on 22-Jul-12 03:36 AM
No version of IE (5,6,7 or 8) has the "Allow active content" options
anywhere, so that is out.
The RegEit "patch" for enabling the "My Computer" however works but
the result is not useful.
And i am still stumped about IE8 bitching about active-X and scripts.
Any other clues?
VanguardLH replied to Robert Baer on 22-Jul-12 01:34 PM
Then you are not looking where I said. This option has been available
since version 3.0 of IE (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/154036). Where
did you look for the "allow active content" options? If you need
pictures instead of a description of where to find the options, look at
(first 2 options in the Security section):
You did not mention if you are in your own home network or a workstation
in your company's network. A company can push policies onto your host
when you log into their domain, one of which is to disable you from
changing some settings in IE.
I do not know if these settings are hidden when using a Home edition of
Windows. I do not bother with the Home edition.
Robert Baer replied to VanguardLH on 22-Jul-12 05:18 PM
Almost all versions of Windows (SE, 2K, XP, 7) are either OEM or
Professional, and the computer is by itself w/Ethernet connection to
Comcast, making it a home network.
Those options, as i stated do not exist in IE5, 6, 7 or 8.
I see your screen shot, and the first THREE options shown there do
not exist; from there on, we are in synch.
I personally own the Oil 4 Less LLC sites and all of the contents and
there is no code to affect any user in terms of so-called "policies".
If one happens to know of an otherwise unseen folder that contains
data (with or without the "index" file) then one can see the files as an
index or run the index file set as if it was a "normal" website.
I have done that in the past, for testing purposes before going "live".
Why? Because IE stupidly renders differently online VS offline; they
VanguardLH replied to Robert Baer on 22-Jul-12 09:34 PM
Policies are not pushed by web sites. Domain servers in a corporate
network push policies (if you log into the domain rather than into a
Actually it looks like your OS setup is stranza. That those options are
missing in Internet Options means something is not right on your host.
Policies (pushed in a domain - not by some web site) are just registry
entries. Anyone who has admin privileges under the account they log
into under Windows can modify those registry settings (if you know where
they are). That also means any tweakers, security programs, lockdown
utilities, malware, or other software you install, if ran under an
admin-level account, can also modify the registry.
I have read that the "allow active content" may be missing under Windows
XP SP-2 RC-1 (release candidate 1), or earlier. That is, you need SP-2
Final, or later. You never mentioned what you have for an OS (other
than having to guess it is some version of Windows).
Even if the options is missing from display in Internet Options
(Advanced tab), those are registry settings. I found one article that
mentions the registry item for the "Allow active content to run in files
on My Computer":
Robert Baer replied to VanguardLH on 23-Jul-12 03:43 AM
Fortunately that fix is for XP where i need it; prolly will not work
for other OSes.
Here is a list of the OSes i run and the accompanying IE.
Win98SE: OEM presumed due to "for distribution with a new PC only" IE5.
Win2K professional SP4 IE6.
WinXP professional SP2 ver 2002 IE7.
Win 7 professional IE8.
Do not have IE9 and am leery of trying to load it in Win7 because M$
in its infinite wisDUMB may force it to overwrite IE8 even if i am lucky
that installation allows a different drive for installation.
Would be nice if that were truly possible..
Naturally, i am not counting the other OSes (DOS, Win3.11).
I used to do almost all of my work in Win98SE and "grunt" work in Win2K.
Now virtually 100% is done in Win2K, and the others are used
primarily to run IE for site checking.
What do you exactly mean "not right on your host"?
VanguardLH replied to Robert Baer on 23-Jul-12 09:23 AM
Everyone but you sees those two "allow activex content" options - unless
a domain policy is hiding them (or software, good or bad, has changed
the same registry items).
Did you try using the registry edits in the articles provided? Registry
settings change little between different versions of Windows. Mostly
you get new settings, not changed old settings.
Robert Baer replied to VanguardLH on 24-Jul-12 12:18 AM
I did the (one) edit mentioned, that made the My Computer security
zone visible for each IE version.
Was essentially useless in that "allow active content" still was not
available, and saw no info to fiddle RegEdit for that.
Have yet to try the RegEdit for XP.
Each registry is separate and cannot affect any other - they are on
different drives and OSes.
VanguardLH replied to Robert Baer on 24-Jul-12 07:23 AM
I was referring to the registry edits regarding "allow activex
content", now which security zones are visible.
I was off target on adding the My Computer security zone (so it is
available). The Advanced security options apply to all security zones;
that is, they are globgal settings and not per-zone settings. You will not
see those settings within any particular security zone.
Also, as mentioned in one of the articles, if you do not want (or cannot)
modify the "allow activex content" options (in the Interent Options UI
or via registry edits), there is the "Mark of the Web" method that you
add to your HTML code.
http://www.markoftheweb.com/ (never used this, unknown software)
As well as every Internet Option setting is "separate and cannot affect
any other". Since you are not in a domain pushing out policies, you are
going to have to revisit a tweak on every host you have whether it be a
registry setting or some app's configuration options.
Robert Baer replied to VanguardLH on 25-Jul-12 02:29 AM
Sorry about that, have not gotten to that yet.
Still fighting IE8 rendition problems on my website.
Really crazy in that IE5, IE6 AND IE7 all do a better job.
VanguardLH replied to Robert Baer on 25-Jul-12 08:13 AM
Just in case an add-on is causing the problem, have you loaded IE8 in
its no add-ons mode?
Have you tried to reset IE8 in case some setting is causing the problem?
Internet Options -> Advanced -> Reset button
You will lose any customizations when you reset.
Robert Baer replied to VanguardLH on 25-Jul-12 06:47 PM
I booted XP and made the change so that ActiveX is now allowed; that
fixed that pop-up nag.
But i STILL have the verdammdt pop-up nag concerning "this page uses
fonts ghat need to be temporarily installed", and i absolutely hate it
as it shows for each and every page, making itself truly a pain.
Only in IE7.
Do not know how to change the "no add-ons mode" but i do clear
everything including add-ons before i test.
Re: reset: What kind of customizations?