Windows 7 - What's the difference between MSDN Premium Subscription and Empower for ISV Initiative

Asked By Axel Dahmen on 23-Jul-07 06:24 AM
Hi,

I'm currently subscribing to a MSDN Premium subscription. Some of my =
colleagues instead run on an Empower for ISV Initiative subscription. I =
don't see a difference between these two programmes except that MSDN =
Premium is fifteen times the price of ISV Initiative.

It seems both programs deliver the same content and benefits. Am I wrong =
with my assumption? (I'm aware that officially an ISV Initiative =
subscription runs two years at most.)

Thanks for enlightening me.

Best regards,
Axel Dahmen




Mark Fitzpatrick replied on 23-Jul-07 09:40 AM
I think the Empower program also has a clause where you have to commit to
releasing a product during that timeframe. I don't know if this is a
shrink-wrapped or downloadable product, but I don't believe that developing
a product under client work for a third party counts.


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Hope this helps,
Mark Fitzpatrick
Microsoft FrontPage MVP 199?-2006. 2007 and beyond

Hi,

I'm currently subscribing to a MSDN Premium subscription. Some of my
colleagues instead run on an Empower for ISV Initiative subscription. I
don't see a difference between these two programmes except that MSDN Premium
is fifteen times the price of ISV Initiative.

It seems both programs deliver the same content and benefits. Am I wrong
with my assumption? (I'm aware that officially an ISV Initiative
subscription runs two years at most.)

Thanks for enlightening me.

Best regards,
Axel Dahmen
David Hearn replied on 24-Jul-07 09:06 AM
It's a shrink wrapped product, and unlike MSDN subscriptions which are
perpetual (for the products supplied during your subscription period),
the Empower programme loses all rights to software at end of the
(maximum) 2 year period.

Specifically, one of the requirements is: "Commit to developing one (1)
packaged and resalable software product that supports at least one of
the following Microsoft technologies:

*      Microsoft Windows Vista
*      Microsoft Office 2007
*      Microsoft Windows Server 2003
*      Microsoft SQL Server 2005
*      Microsoft Mobility platform (Microsoft Windows Mobile
software for Pocket PCs, Microsoft Windows Mobile software for mobile
devices)
*      Microsoft Dynamics (formerly Microsoft Business Solutions)"

And "All benefits lapse when membership expires."

https://partner.microsoft.com/40011351

David
Axel Dahmen replied on 28-Sep-07 07:35 PM
Hi Dave,

managed newsgroups are the same newsgroups everyone is posting to in =
public. But as an MSDN subscriber you may activate a special e-mail =
account being monitored by Microsoft support people. So they guarantee =
you get a response from them within 1-2 days.

From what I see, MS Visual Studio is missing from the list of beneficial =
software in the Action Pack.

And after having a bit more of reading through the Empower for ISV =
pages, it seem's with your subscription you grant MS access to your =
office and sales figures. Something *I* would never accept. That's why I =
don't have a Payback card ;) ... Well, so it seem's I'll have to stick =
with MSDN Premium subscription then.

Guys, thanks for enlightening me with your replies!

TIA,
www.axeldahmen.de
Axel Dahmen


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One of the benefits say - "MSDN online managed support newsgroups" - see =
https://partner.microsoft.com/40014662.

Are these special newsgroups for subscribers different than these in the =
public domain I am posting in now?

I also was under the impression that benefits ended but you could still =
use the software you were using per an MSDN support person I had talked =
to though admittedly having the software is a big benefit. Do they turn =
your license keys off or what? Could make a fun last minute conversion =
problem.

Also I'm in the Empower Program but there is also an "Action Pack" =
program and I'm a bit confused about the difference but it is even =
cheaper yet and seems to be basically the same thing as Empower. See =
https://partner.microsoft.com/US/40016455?PS=3D3 and =
https://partner.microsoft.com/US/40016472?PS=3D95000124.

Would love for someone to explain the real differences so we could =
understand better.

- Dave



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