Windows 7 - HID Non-User Input Data Filter (KB 911895)

Asked By akny84 on 18-Jul-09 01:57 PM
I was not able to install:

Microsoft - Other hardware - HID Non-User Input Data Filter (KB 911895)

PA Bear [MS MVP] replied on 18-Jul-09 02:03 PM
Hide it instead.

Robert Thomas replied on 27-Aug-09 08:18 AM
Windows Update offered this, and when installed, disabled the built-in
wireless network adapter on my HP laptop. Fortunately, I was able to roll
back windows XP using system restore, but sheesh!

Please do not off any more updates that disable my system. I lost two hours
trying to get my adapter to work before i gave up and did the ollback. This
is not funny. People are trying to get work done out here.

Robert Thomas
Shenan Stanley replied on 05-Sep-09 09:13 AM
This is a peer-to-peer newsgroup.  No one here likely offered you anything
at all - and even if they did - it is your options to investigate it and
accept/deny the offer as you see fit.  Accepting things you do not understand
is probably not something you should do anyway.  ;-)

Shenan Stanley
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
cate replied on 25-Sep-09 03:02 AM

Robert Thomas said that Windows Update offered the update that tanked
his computer --he did not say that it was anyone from google groups
offered it. Like Robert, I am totally frustrated with the constant
updates that all of the software programs push on us, and then claim
no responsibility when they scramble some part of our systems.

Fortunately, my MS update could not update the HID non-user data filter
gizmo, but the MS updater is still constantly announcing that it is
ready to be installed. I am here because the MS website did not tell me
what the HID gizmo is --- but now I find that if it had installed, it
would have scrambled my system. Accepting updates that we do not
understand??  This HID update was placed in the MS auto-update. I have
auto-update turned off -- but IE8 is buggy, so I decided/hoped maybe
the update was to fix IE8.  MS auto-update does not say what it is
going to install (probably there is some hidden way to figure out what
the updates are called, then track that to what the update does, and
then track that to known errors -- but that would require a lot of
time that I do not have right now.)-- it just flashes that we need to

As Robert said, I have work to do, and tech problems are not my work.
I was a tech in grad school, and at that time -- tech problems WERE my
work. But now they are programmer errors that are preventing me from
doing my work.

Harry Johnston [MVP] replied on 24-Sep-09 09:18 PM
Actually he did, at least by implication: "Please do not off[er] any more updates".

Just because it caused problems for one person, does not mean it will cause
problems for everyone.  Look up the KB article (911895) on Microsoft's site.  If
you have one of the affected pieces of hardware, it is probably a good idea to
install the update.

Unfortunately, computers are not yet appliances.  They cannot be relied upon to
Just Work; they need maintenance now and then.  That's just the state of the
art.  Think of it like owning a car back in the early days of this century ...
either you learn how to fix it yourself, or you get someone else to do it for
you, because it *will* break down. :-)

cate replied on 25-Sep-09 03:02 AM
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Yes -- when I drove a Jag it required a lot of maintenance, but it was
worth it. Except that I finally decided that cars are not playthings.

I agree that computers are not appliances, so I have Dell service 24/7
by 2 hours -- but this type of problem is not covered.

Do you know about the iexplore.exe application error? -- IE8 but other
versions seem to have it too. I am running XP Professional -- it
reports a memory conflict, says I have to debug, then recycles to the
memory conflict again.
Me replied to Shenan Stanley on 20-Apr-10 10:28 AM
Great customer service! We can tell Microsoft values it is people as customers!
How about Microsoft's responsibility to ONLY SELL SOFTWARE THAT IS SAFE AND

No wonder people are buying Macs.
Shenan Stanley replied to Me on 20-Apr-10 10:49 AM
A response from "Me" without even the common courtesy or fortitude in their
own belief to give an actual name.  Shows not only ignorance of facts but
lack of will.

Macs get updates. (example)

As far as selling *anything* that is safe by anyone - rarely exists and
where it does - it is usually mundane and not as useful as most other
products. ;-)

Again - peer-to-peer.  No one here (unless specified) represents Microsoft
in any fashion.  Much like me - volunteers - people give of their time and
knowledge as they see fit, freely, to assist others where they can.

Sometimes people do not come here to get assistance - but to rant (see your
posting for an example if unsure what I mean.)  I do not understand what
they hope to accomplish other than a release of whatever frustration
build-up they might have surrounding their own situation (and most of the
time - that is all it comes down to in all forms - they are looking for an
outlet for the frustrations and the trouble is usually with *their* system.)

Good luck with that - hope you got what you came for - even if you had to do
so anonymously by tacking onto a post started in July 2009/ending in
September 2009.

Here it is in its entirety - in case where ever you posted from missed some:

Shenan Stanley
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
PA Bear [MS MVP] replied to Me on 20-Apr-10 12:19 PM
Infamous hacker applauds the security of Microsoft software; less than
pleased with Apple and Adobe offerings
Harry Johnston [MVP] replied to Me on 20-Apr-10 07:02 PM
Unfortunately, software engineering as a science is still in a very early stage;
more akin to alchemy than chemistry, really.  Put simply, nobody knows how to
make reliable software, except perhaps in some special cases.

Harry Johnston [MVP] replied on 23-Apr-10 09:14 PM
Microsoft does actually do this sort of testing, which is one of the reasons
there is often such a long delay between the original vulnerability report and
the release of an update.  But IBM operating systems ran on IBM computers, and
generally were not mucked about much by third parties: Windows runs on PCs from a
large number of third parties, and typically has all sorts of third party
software (malicious and/or benign) modifying its behaviour.  There are just too
many variables nowadays for testing to be as effective as it once was.


Harry Johnston
BabyD replied to Shenan Stanley on 12-May-10 01:04 PM
I agree, I have used a windows pc since they came out. and also have a mac.
And needless to say the proof is in the pudding. Windows has way to me
problems and i mean more than just the updates. MAC IS THE WAY TO GO. worry
Harry Johnston [MVP] replied to BabyD on 12-May-10 04:53 PM
it is always puzzled me a bit when people say things like this.  Quite apart from
the hideous user interface (admittedly I have heard it is improved in the last few
years) my experience has always been the opposite - I have always found Windows to
be more reliable than MacOS.

I am only working with Windows these days, but for five or six years I supported
both Windows and Macintosh teaching labs.  As a matter of professional pride, I
really did try my best to hate both platforms equally, but I could not ignore the
fact that the Macintoshes gave me a great deal more grief.

My best guess is that the discrepancy comes from two factors:

1) Macintoshes, I suspect, become much less reliable in an enterprise
configuration than they are at home.  If anything the opposite may be true for
Windows.  This would kind of make sense if you think about it, because Apple
started out in the home market and Microsoft in the business market.

The enterprise sector is not very significant for Apple, AFAIK - there are some
trades which generally use Macs but I suspect they are typically set up as
stand-alone machines, administered on a 1:1 basis; in other words, just like
home machines.  So I am not sure Apple put very much effort into support and
testing in the enterprise context.

2) Home PCs are often cheap and nasty hardware, whereas I have generally used more
reliable equipment.  My experience suggeests that Macintoshes lie somewhere in
the middle of the range, not as good as the best PC hardware, but much better
than the cheapest stuff.  Hardware faults are to blame for OS instability more
often than people think.


Harry Johnston
Hanc replied to akny84 on 01-Jul-10 07:15 AM

Broken link???
Hanc replied to akny84 on 01-Jul-10 07:15 AM
Has anyone actually been able to discover what is within the update?

Broken link!!!!
Robert Aldwinckle replied to Hanc on 01-Jul-10 10:05 AM

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PA Bear [MS MVP] replied to Hanc on 01-Jul-10 12:37 PM
KB911895 is an all-purpose alias for all driver updates offered via Windows

Tip: Only obtain driver updates you really need from the device or computer
manufacturers' download page, not Windows Update.