Windows 7 - Dual-Boot Issue; XP Pro ---> Vista

Asked By tarheel

25-May-07 10:42 PM

I'm currently running XP Pro on a laptop and I got a copy of Vista Business
from my school.  What I did to install it was create an extended partition on
my hard drive and create a new V: partition.  When I booted to the Vista dvd
and installed it, things went fine until it tries to restart and boot up
Vista.  Right after choosing Vista from the boot list I get a screen that
says:

File: \Windows\system32\winload.exe
Status: 0xc0000001
Info: The selected entry could not be loaded because the application is
missing or corrupt.

I've tried repairing and reinstalling several times while tweaking this or
that with no success.  One thing that I've noticed that seems strange is that
when I boot from the dvd and access the repair console, the drive letters in
the bcd differ from what they are in EasyBCD.  Here is what EasyBCD reads:

Windows Boot Manager
--------------------
identifier              {bootmgr}
device                  partition=C:
description             Windows Boot Manager
locale                  en-US
inherit                 {globalsettings}
default                 {default}
displayorder            {ntldr}
{default}
toolsdisplayorder       {memdiag}
timeout                 3

Windows Legacy OS Loader
------------------------
identifier              {ntldr}
device                  partition=C:
path                    \ntldr
description             Windows XP Professional

Windows Boot Loader
-------------------
identifier              {default}
device                  partition=V:
path                    \Windows\system32\winload.exe
description             Microsoft Windows Vista
locale                  en-US
inherit                 {bootloadersettings}
osdevice                partition=V:
systemroot              \Windows
resumeobject            {0309b979-0a8e-11dc-92eb-87a75f4a0752}
nx                      OptIn
detecthal               Yes

Any help or suggestions would be great.

26-May-07 12:02 AM

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I don't know exactly what is causing the
issue you describe but I do know that
Vista installs best if you allow it to create
it's own partition.

Maybe some of the following info will
be useful:

You may need to reduce the size of
your Primary Active partition to create
some unallocated space.

I used Acronis Disk Director Suite 10
to accomplish this but there are other
options such as the app. mentioned
in the following article.

How to dual-boot Vista with XP -
step-by-step guide with screenshots
http://tinyurl.com/ysh8hy

Gnome Partition Editor
http://gparted.sourceforge.net/

Once you have the unallocated space
available...you may need to enter your
BIOS and change the boot order so
you can boot from the Vista disk. From
that point just follow the onscreen
instructions.

The following links may be useful also:

Dual-Booting Vista and XP
http://www.windowstalk.org/dual_boot_vista.htm

Dual-Booting Vista and XP (Part 2)
http://www.windowstalk.org/dual_boot_part2.htm

VistaBootPRO
http://www.vistabootpro.org/index.php


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26-May-07 06:37 PM

Ok, I tried what you said.  I deleted the partition that I had installed
Vista on and then booted to the Vista dvd and did the install to the
unallocated space.  I got the same error again on restart.  I've read before
the first guide that you posted and I feel like I've done exactly what it
says to do.

One strange thing I've noticed is during install it acts like it already has
all of the install files ready.  It goes to the "expanding files" stage after
only a few seconds.

26-May-07 08:05 PM

================================
Sorry...I thought it was worth a try.

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me may not work for you

Proceed at your own risk

26-May-07 08:54 PM

Hey, at least I got a response.  Thanks anyway!

27-May-07 08:51 PM

Makes a huge difference how the new partition was created and
(especially) formatted.  If this was done from inside XP then that may
be the source of your problems.  The surest way is to let the Vista
installer do both chores.

27-May-07 09:27 PM

Hmmm, I didn't know that?

I installed XP onto a clean harddrive.  After it finished, I used the
disk management tool to partition the remainder of the drive and
formatted each partition as NTFS.

Next, I installed Vista Ultimate 64 on one of the partitions and had no
problems at all with the installation, Vista and XP dual boot with no
problems.  I'm wondering what problems have others had, was I just
lucky?


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28-May-07 04:39 AM

Windows Boot Manager
--------------------
identifier              {bootmgr}
device                  partition=C:
description             Windows Boot Manager
locale                  en-US
inherit                 {globalsettings}
default                 {default}
displayorder            {ntldr}
{default}
toolsdisplayorder       {memdiag}
timeout                 3

Windows Legacy OS Loader
------------------------
identifier              {ntldr}
device                  partition=C:
path                    \ntldr
description             Windows XP Professional

Windows Boot Loader
-------------------
identifier              {default}
device                  partition=V:
path                    \Windows\system32\winload.exe
description             Microsoft Windows Vista
locale                  en-US
inherit                 {bootloadersettings}
osdevice                partition=V:
systemroot              \Windows
resumeobject            {0309b979-0a8e-11dc-92eb-87a75f4a0752}
nx                      OptIn
detecthal               Yes

Bcd log indicated that your vista partition is V:, to launch vista, you
could try these command in WinRE mode, type following command.
bcdedit /set {default} device partition=V:
bcdedit /set {default} path \Windows\system32\winload.exe

28-May-07 12:31 PM

I've tried lots of different ways of formatting the partition.  I've
formatted it through XP and through Vista.  I've also tried installing to
unallocated space.  I'm not aware of any other way of doing it.

28-May-07 12:34 PM

By WinRE do you mean the recovery environment available when Vista is booted
from the dvd?

28-May-07 04:53 PM

I have no experience with Vista-64, so I can only speculate.  But I
do know that there are some subtle additions to Vista's NTFS that XP
doesn't know about.  (Junctions, just for one.)

I originally installed Vista by creating *and* formatting a new NTFS
partition from XP, and then using the Vista DVD to install to the
new partition.  It worked well for several hours while I installed
the latest Vista updates from MS -- then I tried to install firefox
and the whole system crashed and left the filesystem trashed beyond
recovery.

When I reinstalled Vista I let the installer create and format its
own partition and I've no trouble ever since.  Just anecdotal evidence,
yes, but it convinced me.

28-May-07 05:21 PM

Ditto.


About what I did but I had no problems.


I'm not convinced, I suspect some other problem caused your crash, not
the formatting of the partition but there's no way to know for sure..


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29-May-07 08:27 PM

yes, you could find command option in WinRE mode.

29-May-07 10:05 PM

Don: > Makes a huge difference how the new partition was created and

XS11E: Hmmm, I didn't know that?

I installed XP onto a clean harddrive.  After it finished, I used the
disk management tool to partition the remainder of the drive and
formatted each partition as NTFS.

Next, I installed Vista Ultimate 64 on one of the partitions and had no
problems at all with the installation, Vista and XP dual boot with no
problems.  I'm wondering what problems have others had, was I just
lucky?

XS11E:

IMO, Don's comment is incorrect.  I have done several Vista x86 installs
into vols created and formatted by XP.
Never had a problem.

29-May-07 10:57 PM

I'm sure most have done it that way but I wouldn't call his comment
incorrect, it must have caused some kind of problem on his machine or
he wouldn't have said that, would he?

I'd like to know just what problem(s) he had.




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30-May-07 10:56 PM

Sorry, I thought I'd already mentioned the catastrophic system crash
while trying to install mozilla-firefox.  I confess I don't have any
proof that this crash was caused by using XP to format the Vista
partition, but I later did the same steps with no problems after
letting Vista format its own partition during the second install.

As far as I can recall, the formatting was the only thing I changed
when I reinstalled Vista.  Not exactly rigorous proof -- but I am
convinced that Black Magic also plays an important role in every
computer geek's life, so that offers a plausible alternative theory.

I really do recall reading (somewhere) that XP should not be used
to do any sort of manipulation of a Vista filesystem, e.g. checking
it for errors or repairing it.

We would all welcome comments from someone who actually knows the
facts, certainly.

31-May-07 12:17 AM

to do any sort of manipulation of a Vista filesystem, e.g. checking
it for errors or repairing it.

Don:

I use XP's defragger on Vista vols w/o any problems

31-May-07 02:29 PM

Thanks for the info.


OK, I don't think the formatting is what did it but who knows?


OK, facts: Diamondbacks beat Phillies 4-3 last night.  I know other
facts but to me, that's the most important right now. ;-)


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31-May-07 08:03 PM

That's good to know, but why not use Vista's defragger?

31-May-07 08:15 PM

Some (like me) don't like and won't use Vista's defragger because it
won't tell you what it's doing nor what it's done.


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31-May-07 08:56 PM

Ok, here's a screenshot of what happens in the WinRE.

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/1552/img1438fr3.jpg

It seems strange that it says Vista is installed to D: in the recovery
environment but in Vista Boot Pro in XP it says that Vista is on the E:
drive, which is the correct location.

08-Jun-07 11:27 PM

Hmm, any ideas?

10-Jun-07 07:48 AM

hi tarheels,

Sorry for the delay, I had a exam in shcool, yeap!!!

the vista installation partition is E: in windows xp, from your screenshot,
I noticed that the partition is D:, therefore i would like to let you know
that the partition will be changed after booting into windows xp.  for now,
since you're unable to launch vista, i suggest you could use bcdedit commands
that i told you before to have a test, if it doesn't work, then use vista
boot pro.

if you have any question, you could send e-mail to me, randy.1985@hotmail.com

03-Jul-07 02:18 PM

From what I understand, you want me to do the following:

Bcd log indicated that your vista partition is V:, to launch vista, you
could try these command in WinRE mode, type following command.
bcdedit /set {default} device partition=V:
bcdedit /set {default} path \Windows\system32\winload.exe

The thing is, when I installed Vista last time I let the Vista installer
format the partition so it's no long installed to the V: partition.  The
screenshot I posted shows partition D: but vista boot pro shows partition E:
as the Vista partition.  At the bottom of the screenshot it shows the
response/error I got when trying to change the device partition.  Any
suggestions on which drive partition I should try to change it to?