Windows 7 - Vista can not see XP

Asked By Waynez

29-Dec-08 10:22 PM

Hi

I need some help with networking Vista and XP. Hopefully someone from this
forum can help me.

I. Problem:
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I am not able to access the Dell XP computer from the HP Vista desktop. View
full map from Vista shows both the Dell XP and HP Vista desktops. However, I
can not access the Dell XP desktop.

From the Dell XP desktop, I am able to access the HP Vista Public folder.


II. Background information on HP Vista
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1. Network and Sharing Center info:
Network discovery:     on
File sharing:              on
Public folder sharing:  on
Printer sharing:          on
Media sharing:          off

2. Wokrgroup on HP Vista:  WORKGROUP (same as the XP)

3. Firewall info on HP Vista:
Both Windows and Norton firewalls are on.
I have tried turning off each one at a time to test.
I have also tried turning off both for testing.
None worked. I was still not able to access the Dell XP

4. NetBT (NetBios over TCP/IP)
I tried Enable, Disable and Default.
I saw different results from browstat as a result of different settings.
I need more information and suggestion here.
I tried setting both Vista and XP to have the same settings.


III. Background information on Dell XP
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1. Local Area Connection 2 Properties, the followings are checked:
File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks
Link-Layer Topology Discovery Responder (I downloaded the LLTD)

2. Wokrgroup on Dell XP:  WORKGROUP (same on Vista)

3. Firewall info on Dell XP:
Windows firewall is on.
I had McAfee Virus scan, but uninstalled it.

4. NetBT (NetBios over TCP/IP)
I tried Enable, Disable and Default.
I saw different results from browstat as a result of different settings.
I need more information and suggestion here.
I tried setting both Vista and XP to have the same settings.



VI. HP Vista ipconfig, browstat, and net config info
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1. ipconfig /all
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Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : HPDesktop
Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : hsd1.ca.comcast.net.

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . : hsd1.ca.comcast.net.
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8168C(P)/8111C(P) Family
PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC (NDIS 6.0)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-23-54-76-D1-9C
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . :
fe80::e0b7:ae93:7068:5ffe%10(Preferred)
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.109(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Monday, December 29, 2008 11:43:35 AM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, December 30, 2008 11:43:33 AM
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.87.76.178
68.87.78.130
68.87.69.146
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 6:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . :
2001:0:4137:9e50:3cc4:39a9:3f57:fe92(Preferred)
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . :
fe80::3cc4:39a9:3f57:fe92%12(Preferred)
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : ::
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 7:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . : hsd1.ca.comcast.net.
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.hsd1.ca.comcast.net.
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes


2. browstat status
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Status for domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{2C2BCEB4-2EFA-4072-B356-EEA46965475C}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: HPDESKTOP
Master browser is running build 6001
1 backup servers retrieved from master HPDESKTOP
\\HPDESKTOP
Unable to retrieve server list from HPDESKTOP: 1130


3. net config
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Server Name                           \\HPDESKTOP
Server Comment

Software version                      Windows Vista (TM) Home Premium
Server is active on
NetbiosSmb (HPDESKTOP)
NetBT_Tcpip_{2C2BCEB4-2EFA-4072-B356-EEA46965475C} (HPDESKTOP)


Server hidden                         No
Maximum Logged On Users               10
Maximum open files per session        16384

Idle session time (min)               15
The command completed successfully.

Computer name                        \\HPDESKTOP
Full Computer name                   HPDesktop
User name                            Wayne

Workstation active on
NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
NetBT_Tcpip_{2C2BCEB4-2EFA-4072-B356-EEA46965475C} (00235476D19C)

Software version                     Windows Vista (TM) Home Premium

Workstation domain                   WORKGROUP
Logon domain                         HPDesktop

COM Open Timeout (sec)               0
COM Send Count (byte)                16
COM Send Timeout (msec)              250
The command completed successfully.



V. Dell XP ipconfig, browstat and net config info
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1. ipconfig /all
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Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Dell-Desktop         Primary Dns
Suffix  . . . . . . . :          Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No         WINS Proxy Enabled. . .
. . . . . : No         DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . :
hsd1.ca.comcast.net.
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . : hsd1.ca.comcast.net.
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0C-F1-7B-5D-A5         Dhcp
Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes         Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . .
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0         Default Gateway . .
. . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1         DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . :
192.168.1.1         DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.87.76.178
68.87.78.130
68.87.69.146         Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . :
Monday, December 29, 2008 3:40:55 PM         Lease Expires . . . . . . . . .
. : Tuesday, December 30, 2008 3:40:55 PM

2. browstat status
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Status for domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{E5EA3095-3EE0-4D2C-8D51-CC999979A7D5}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: HPDESKTOP
Could not connect to registry, error = 53        Unable to determine build
of browser master: 53
\\\\HPDESKTOP     .  Version:06.00  Flags: 51203 NT POTENTIAL MASTER
1 backup servers retrieved from master HPDESKTOP
\\HPDESKTOP
There are 1 servers in domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{E5EA3095-3EE0-4D2C-8D51-CC999979A7D5}
There are 1 domains in domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{E5EA3095-3EE0-4D2C-8D51-CC999979A7D5}


3. net config
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Server Name                           \\DELL-DESKTOP
Server Comment                        Dell Dimension 4600 with Windows XP,
Pentium 4, 2.66GHz, 533MHz FSB, 512MB DDR

Software version                      Windows 2002
Server is active on
NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
NetBT_Tcpip_{E5EA3095-3EE0-4D2C-8D51-CC999979A7D5} (000cf17b5da5)


Server hidden                         No
Maximum Logged On Users               5
Maximum open files per session        16384

Idle session time (min)               15
The command completed successfully.

Computer name                        \\DELL-DESKTOP
Full Computer name                   Dell-Desktop
User name                            Wayne Szeto

Workstation active on
NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
NetBT_Tcpip_{E5EA3095-3EE0-4D2C-8D51-CC999979A7D5} (000CF17B5DA5)

Software version                     Windows 2002

Workstation domain                   WORKGROUP
Workstation Domain DNS Name          (null)
Logon domain                         DELL-DESKTOP

COM Open Timeout (sec)               0
COM Send Count (byte)                16
COM Send Timeout (msec)              250
The command completed successfully.




Thank you in advance for any help. I have spent the last couple of days
trying to figure this out.
I viewed many posts on this forum and read PChuck's Network page (lots of
good info. Thanks).
All of them seem a bit different from the problem I am seeing.
I hope someone can help.

Thank you.
Waynezx

30-Dec-08 12:26 AM

Have you assigned permission in Security tab? This search result may help.
Step by step troubleshooting ...
2 posts - Last post: Feb 17, 2007
Clearly not a simple home LAN with a Vista PC and a XP PC or two. Did
... Make sure you have assigned permissions in the Security tab in the ...
www.chicagotech.net/netforums/viewtopic.php?t=273


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30-Dec-08 03:04 AM

Hi Bob,

Thanks for the suggestion, but it is not the XP that is not seeing the Vista.
it is the Vista that can not access the XP.

Waynezx

30-Dec-08 05:38 AM

Make sure that in the XP, file andprinter sharing is allowed.
Is McAfee a full suite; if it is, check that LAN or file sharing is allowed
in its firewall exceptions.

Try this:
Also, run the XP’s Home or Small Office Network File and Printer Sharing
Wizard, even if you had an XP Network set up prior to adding a Vista computer
to it(redoing the Wizard seems to work for XP machines!).

In “My Network Places”: “Set up a Home or Small Office Network”
OR under Accessories > Communications > Network Setup Wizard > Allow File
and Printer Sharing.

--
Mad Mike

30-Dec-08 10:37 AM

We encountered this same problem in our household only days ago.  For us, the
fix was as simple as changing the Workgroup name on the new Vista laptop.

You've already confirmed that "WORKGROUP" is the name in use on both
machines; it may be foolish to suggest this, but are you certain that YOUR
network doesn't have a different name? "WORKGROUP" is the default network
name used by Vista--if yours is different, "WORKGROUP" would need to be
changed to match the name of your network, at which point the two will be
able to "talk to" each other.

Could someone have simply typed "WORKGROUP" on the host computer as the
network name, or was that the name of your home network all along prior to
the purchase of this new computer?

31-Dec-08 05:31 AM

Hi Mike,

Thanks for the suggestion, but it didn't work. I had already run the Network
Setup Wizard once, and just ran it again. It's not working. I also double
checked that the computers are on the same workgroup (WORKGROUP). You can see
that on my initial post.

From the XP machine, I am able to access the Public folder on Vista.

From the Vista machine, Network Map shows both the Vista and the XP
machines, along with the Switch, Gateway and Internet. However, I am not able
to access the XP machine. Nothing happen when clicking on the XP machine
icon.  The Network folder also does NOT show the XP.

I am really puzzled!

Waynezx

31-Dec-08 05:43 AM

Hi Mike,

I had un-installed McAfee Virus Scan on the XP. Only Windows Firewall.

Waynezx