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Help With Guest Logon

Asked By JD
16-Nov-09 01:18 AM
For the first time I decided to activate the Guest User logon. Here is what is
happening. Word will not install at all. I get repeated error messages
regarding the Office Source Engine. I have spent many hours trying different
fixes, including reinstalling Word.
However, though Works appears to install under Guest User, when I try to
perform any routine functions (save, delete, etc.) I get  messages that
The only application that seems to work under the Guest User logon is
Encarta.
The problem is apparently not with Word or Works, both of which function
perfectly under the Owner logon.
What can I do to enable a guest user to use Word and Works?

Have you tried looking in Local Computer Config. Go to Start>Run type:gpedit.

Rich Barry replied to JD
16-Nov-09 03:40 PM
Have you tried looking in Local Computer Config.  Go to Start>Run  type:
gpedit.msc

Why you need to activate the Guest User logon for its have no Admit Rightsit

Hot-text replied to Rich Barry
16-Nov-09 04:19 PM
Why you need  to activate the Guest User logon for its have no Admit Rights
it just for Guest to Play Games read E-Mails..
you are Crying about giving up Admit Rights
You Need to Make a New USER >> with a Password  so you can give up same
Right to but not all
So that a USER can do WORD AND WORK
and all the error will go away
I Have 3 Users
1 for Wife
1 for me with all Admit Rights
1 for Son with no Rights at all  LOOL

Hot-text wrote:If english is not your primary language - there are newsgroups

Shenan Stanley replied to Hot-text
16-Nov-09 04:32 PM
If english is not your primary language - there are newsgroups better suited
to assist you.

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I am sure you meant to be helpful, but if I "look in" Local Computer
JD replied to Rich Barry
16-Nov-09 08:35 PM
I am sure you meant to be helpful, but if I "look in" Local Computer Config,
what will I expect to see--and what should I do once there?
I do not understand what you are telling me.
JD replied to Hot-text
16-Nov-09 08:41 PM
I do not understand what you are telling me. Are you trying to help or just
being nasty?
All the Help files and Windows xp books clearly say that a Guest user should
be able to use all applications installed by Windows.
Why all are accessible except Word and Works is what puzzles me.
I am wondering if it might have something to do with the fact that I checked
the box to "make my folders secure." Both these apps create and save
documents, some of which are, of course, in "secure" folders.
I cannot think of any other possibilities.
Run reports: "Cannot find gpedit.msc. Be sure you typed the name correctly."
JD replied to Rich Barry
16-Nov-09 08:50 PM
Run reports: "Cannot find gpedit.msc. Be sure you typed the name correctly."
I am running Windows XP Home.
JD replied to JD
16-Nov-09 10:05 PM
I am running Windows XP Home. I suspect that the "group edit" function is not
available in this version of Windows.
Here is my frustration: All the books and Windows Help resources tell me that
Guest users should be able to use all programs installed by Windows.
If I were told authoritatively that Word and Works are "exceptions" and that
I should not expect them to work, I'd be OK with that. Windows does have a
serviceable word processor (Wordpad) that a guest could use.
When I run Works in the Guest user account, it loads and creates documents,
but when I try to save, I get error messages such as "Works cannot complete
this task," "Works cannot install," and "Try reloading Windows or Check your
hard drive."
Word will not install, the message here being that it cannot access the
Office Source Engine. I know the OSE is where it is supposed to be. I have
uninstalled and reinstalled Word and even run Word "repair." It runs
smoothly, indicating that, at least from the Owner logon, it can access the
OSE.
So the "problem" is not with Word but with Windows.
Windows XP Inside Out by Ed Bott instructs me to check the box "Make my
folders private," without suggesting that doing so might make Word unuseable
to the Guest user. Is it possible that had I not checked that box, these
applications would run successfully? I am at a loss.
English is not a primary language for the USA!!!
Hot-text replied to Shenan Stanley
16-Nov-09 10:50 PM
English is not a primary language for the USA!!!
YES
Hot-text replied to JD
16-Nov-09 10:53 PM
YES
JD,The "Guest" user has problems with storing and accessing Application Data.
Tim Meddick replied to JD
16-Nov-09 10:53 PM
JD,

The "Guest" user has problems with storing and accessing Application Data.

This is due to the fact that the "permissions" that the Guest account has are LOWER
than a normal Limited Account.

The best way to allow an unknown "Guest" user to access your PC not requiring a
password is to create a new user account called "User" with limited access, and not
set a password for it.

This can then function as a "Guest" account but will have the right level of
permissions to correctly save and access settings created by both Windows and
programs & games.

==

Cheers,    Tim Meddick,    Peckham, London.    :-)
YES
Hot-text replied to JD
16-Nov-09 10:57 PM
YES
Does your "Yes" mean that I should not expect the Guest User to be able
JD replied to Hot-text
16-Nov-09 11:38 PM
Does your "Yes" mean that I should not expect the Guest User to be able to
access Word and Works?
Tim,I thank you for your thoughtful reply.
JD replied to Tim Meddick
16-Nov-09 11:41 PM
Tim,
I thank you for your thoughtful reply. At last an "answer" that I can
understand!
I am going to take your advice.
Is there a way that I can "undo" the Guest User configurations that I have
already done? That is, return it to the "default" state it was in before I
set it up--make it as if I had never turned it on?
JD,Yes, de-activate (turn off) the Guest user account in the "User Accounts"
Tim Meddick replied to JD
16-Nov-09 11:52 PM
JD,

Yes, de-activate (turn off) the Guest user account in the "User Accounts" control
panel.

After rebooting, you should then be able to delete the entire "Guest" folder as in :


This will effectively delete all the settings associated with the Guest account
stored in the file : ..\Guest\ntuser.dat along with Application Data and the Guest's
Documents folder.

On re-activating (turning on) the Guest account, the whole "Guest" profile folder
will be re-created using default settings...

==

Cheers,    Tim Meddick,    Peckham, London.    :-)
You're a gentleman and a scholar!
JD replied to Tim Meddick
17-Nov-09 01:43 AM
You're a gentleman and a scholar!
YES JD for Tim is right
Hot-text replied to Tim Meddick
17-Nov-09 11:07 AM
YES JD for Tim is right
And Tom #1 in my Book to JDKEEP UP THE GOOD WORK TOMyou the ONE
Hot-text replied to JD
17-Nov-09 11:14 AM
And  Tom #1 in my Book to JD
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK TOM
you the ONE
You are most welcome.==Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)
Tim Meddick replied to JD
17-Nov-09 06:09 PM
You are most welcome.

==

Cheers,    Tim Meddick,    Peckham, London.    :-)
To sum this up, JD did not have a version of WinXP with gpedit.
Rich Barry replied to JD
17-Nov-09 06:43 PM
To sum this up, JD did not have a version of WinXP with gpedit.msc
available and wouldnt know what to do with it if he had it.  Hot-Text
tries to help him and Shenan tells him to get lost his English is
terrible. JD gets upset and Tim comes to his rescue. Hot-Text keeps
calling Tim, Tom and he is the Man. JD is satisfied finally with Tim's
explanation and all is well with the world. Did I get that right?
I am quite sure you did!==Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)
Tim Meddick replied to Rich Barry
17-Nov-09 06:47 PM
I am quite sure you did!

==

Cheers,    Tim Meddick,    Peckham, London.    :-)
Rich Barry wrote:We'll have to wait until next week on "Soap"...
Shenan Stanley replied to Rich Barry
17-Nov-09 08:33 PM
We'll have to wait until next week on "Soap"...

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MS-MVP
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In plane English YES
Hot-text replied to Rich Barry
18-Nov-09 01:55 PM
In plane English  YES
microsoft.public.windowsxp.
Hot-text replied to Shenan Stanley
18-Nov-09 02:00 PM
microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics

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19-Nov-09 09:55 AM
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