Windows 7 - Excessive boot time

Asked By Accomac on 03-Jan-12 10:01 AM
Hello all,

Using XP Pro SP3 with all updates. The machine just recently started
to take a very long time to go from the wall paper to getting icons
and the toolbar on the screen so you can work. I am talking in the
order of 4 minutes or so before anything happens. Once you get past
this delay the machine runs fine and is not slow doing anything else.
I have not installed any new programs that might be the culprit.

Virus scans reveal nothing wrong, I have no idea what the cause of
this massive delay is.

Can anyone shed any light on a possible cause?

Thank you in advance,

Accomac


SC Tom replied to Accomac on 03-Jan-12 10:06 AM
Check the event logs and see what may be there causing warnings/errors.

If nothing there stands out, you can always do a clean boot and start there:    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310353

Have you added anything new in the way of software, hardware, or updates? Have you tried a System Restore to a point
before the slowness started?

Just a couple of places to start :-)
--
SC Tom
VanguardLH replied to Accomac on 03-Jan-12 10:07 AM
Use msconfig to disable all startup items (well, most of them since not
all are listed by msconfig so you might consider looking at
SysInternals' AutoRuns).  Then test if there is a delay.  If not, you
have a startup item that is keeping the computer busy for awhile.

Note that any software that looks for and applies an update can slow
your computer.  That includes the anti-virus software.  I have found many
of them will impact the responsiveness of your host when they are
updating.
David H. Lipman replied to Accomac on 03-Jan-12 11:02 AM
From: "Accomac" <noone@home.net>


Look at ...

1.  Not enough RAM.

2.  Too many stubs loading at StartUp.


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Dave
Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
Accomac replied to SC Tom on 03-Jan-12 03:15 PM
Hi Tom and all who replied,

I removed a program called Garmin Lifetime Updater, that looks for
updates to my GPS. Once that think was removed the boot time is back
to normal.

Thanks again!

Accomac
SC Tom replied to Accomac on 03-Jan-12 04:01 PM
I hate when a company installs an auto-updater with their software. Between QuickTime, Adobe, tomtom, Garmin, etc.,
etc., it would take 20 minutes to boot a PC if all of them were left to run at boot-up  >:-(

Glad you found an easy answer!
--
SC Tom
David H. Lipman replied to SC Tom on 03-Jan-12 04:43 PM
From: "SC Tom" <sc@tom.net>


Everybody wants to load "their stub".
No different than the old TSR days of DOS.




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Dave
Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
SC Tom replied to David H. Lipman on 03-Jan-12 06:15 PM
I hated that, and took care of it also ;-) I do not think they were quite as bad as today's stuff, probably due to size
restrictions of installation floppies and the lack of real web site program downloads (especially with that 9600 baud
modem).
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SC Tom
Kirk Bubul replied to SC Tom on 04-Jan-12 06:08 AM
Lucky you!  My first modem, gotten for Christmas in 1986, was 1200
baud.  And that was big step up from my friend's 600 baud modem.  We
could download 600K from a BBS in an hour - if we were lucky.
SC Tom replied to Kirk Bubul on 04-Jan-12 07:53 AM
The first dial-up connection I used was probably a 600 or slower- it was in 1979 when I was a store manager in Baltimore
and we had to send our daily sales figures to HQ in Detroit by punch tape. That one used a phone coupler. Oh boy,
another late night!!

With the way service was around here in SoCar in the mid '80s, I was lucky to download anything in an hour. With the
slowness of the downloads, plus the constant disconnects, it was maddening. And add to that the fact it was a toll call.
. .  These kids today do not know how sweet they got it ;-)
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SC Tom
BillW50 replied to SC Tom on 04-Jan-12 08:27 AM
In the early days 300 baud modems were very common. I probably still
have a few of them including one with the classic cups which locks the
phone's receiver in place. I heard of 150 baud modems too, but I believe
they were actually quite rare. And throughout the history of modems 300,
1200, 9600, and 56k baud were the popular speeds. There was other
speeds, but not quite as popular.

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Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2
Centrino Core Duo T2400 1.83GHz - 2GB - Windows XP SP3
SC Tom replied to BillW50 on 04-Jan-12 11:40 AM
From what I remember from that era, you can add 28.8K to that list. They
were popular for a long (technologically speaking) time. IIRC, the big jump
was from 9600 to 28800 with the 14400 not lasting long at all.
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SC Tom
Roy Smith replied to Kirk Bubul on 04-Jan-12 11:41 AM
Are you sure it was a 600 baud modem?  When I first started playing
around with computers the fastest modem available was 300 bps, then it
jumped to 1200 bps.  Later on modem speeds went to 2400, 4800, 9600,
14.4k, 28.8k, 33.6k and finally 56k which is as fast as they could go
due to limitations of the telephone equipment used at the time.

My first modem was only 300 baud and it was one made by Commodore.  It
was the VIC Modem and it was not an autodial modem.  I had to use a phone
that had a detachable handset cord to make a call, then remove the
handset from the cord and plug it into the modem to make a connection.
Used that one for a while, then upgraded to a Westridge 6420 which was
an autodial/auto-answer modem but still only 300 bps.   Ahhh those were
the days...


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Roy Smith
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit
Thunderbird 9.0.1
Wednesday, January 04, 2012 10:41:21 AM
Kirk Bubul replied to Roy Smith on 04-Jan-12 12:17 PM
The mists of time fogged my memory, I think.  I suspect that my friend
had a 1200 baud and I bought a 2400 baud for Christmas in 1986.  I
recall that I tried a no-name cheapie that I could not get to work and
then bought a name brand for about $160.  In San Antonio.  I cannot
really recall if it was external or internal, but I think it was
internal.  One of the first times I went into the innards of my PC
clone computer.
BillW50 replied to SC Tom on 04-Jan-12 12:19 PM
Yes true and the 2400 baud and the 33k something (33.6?).

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Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2
Centrino Core Duo T2400 1.83GHz - 2GB - Windows XP SP3
Char Jackson replied to Roy Smith on 04-Jan-12 03:24 PM
Can 19.2k be added to that list? I had one for awhile back in the day,
but I do not remember the brand.

I had the Commodore 300 baud modem at the time I attended my first
COMDEX show in Las Vegas. One of the vendors, Supra, had super hot
chicks in skimpy outfits handing out pin-on buttons that simply said,
modems.

A very minor clarification: the 56k modems cannot actually do 56k
because the power required would be above the allowed level and would
cause crosstalk across other cable pairs in the bundle. (IIRC) I think
the best they can legally do is about 53k.
Zaphod Beeblebrox replied to Char Jackson on 04-Jan-12 04:29 PM
I also go back to the 300 baud acoustically coupled modem days...

I agree with both 19.2k and your recollection about the 53k limit
(though I thought it was 57.6k not 56k).

Also, as far as I can recall I never ran across any 4800 baud modems
except for a peculiar IRS line to electronically file income tax
returns many, many years ago.  Not only was the baud rate odd, the
data, stop and parity settings were non-standard.  Government, go
figure.

--
Zaphod

Voted "Worst Dressed Sentient Being in the Known Universe" for seven
years in a row.
Char Jackson replied to Zaphod Beeblebrox on 04-Jan-12 09:33 PM
I did not look it up so you are probably right.


Lowest bidder, I suppose. Some vendor unloaded a system they could not
sell anywhere else. :-)
SC Tom replied to Char Jackson on 05-Jan-12 07:38 AM
Like those $200 hammers and $300 toilet seats . . . :-)