Windows 7 - Is it possible to install Windows XP Pro. SP3, with its bootableslipstreamed CD, into an external USB2 HDD?

Hello!

Is it possible? I know it is slow due to USB2 speed, but it is only for
quick testings and do not want to mess with my internal hardwares (HDD
has an old Windows XP Pro. SP3 installation that has hard lock ups with
videos -- need to figure out if it is my softwares or hardwares) in my
current computer. Also, it does not help that I have disabilities (cannot
even use a screwdriver).

Thank you in advance. :)
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Yes, but it requires remastering.

Look for "BootBusExtender" as a search keyword, for the
changes needed to make it possible to boot WinXP from a
USB hard drive.

Example here.

http://www.techspot.com/community/topics/how-to-install-and-boot-windows-on-an-external-usb-hard-drive.116114/

You'll probably be a lot older, and have gray hairs, before
you get that working :-) But, it is possible.

Paul

LOL!

...glen

Heheh - spot-on there, Paul!  I tried it once and gave up as
it was getting to be far too much like hard work..  Definitely
not for the faint-hearted!
--
Rob

On 6/7/2012 12:27 PM PT, Paul typed:


Ha. I already have those! :-P

really required? Again, I am disabled to open case and go inside my
computer. :-(
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our antennae bouncing off one another, continously on ant autopilot,
with nothing really human required of us. 'Stop.' 'Go.' 'Walk here.'
'Drive there.' All action basically for survival. All communication
simply to keep this ant colony buzzing along in an efficient, polite
manner. 'Here is your change.' 'Paper or plastic?' 'Credit or debit?"'
'You want ketchup with that' I do not want a straw. I want real human
moments. I want to see you. I want you to see me. I do not want to give
that up. I do not want to be ant, you know?" "Yeah... yeah I know. I
do not want to be an ant either. Thanks for kinda, like, josteling me
there... I have been kinda on zombie autopilot lately. I do not feel like
an ant in my head, but I guess I probably look like one..." --Waking
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On 6/8/2012 3:48 AM PT, Rob typed:


And risky, from its complexity, from what I read. Ugh. :(
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This is purely up to you. I have had enough "accidents", like
needing do a "fixmbr", to consider it easier to just disconnect
any disks I do not want damaged, than to clean up a mess later.

You can probably work your way out of any problem later,
using brain rather than brawn. it is a lot easier for
me to pull the cables, because the side is always off
the computer. I am just waiting now, for the connectors
to wear out.

Note that, not even the BIOS settings for disks work. There
is a "disable" per drive in a lot of BIOS setup screens, but
stupid Linux will re-enable the drives, and then they can get
written to by GRUB during an install. So the computer is
pretty defenseless in that regard. Only the "write protect"
jumper on the old SCSI drives, works worth a damn. That would
stop anything from writing, but still allow you to read drives.
it is the kind of thing, you could connect up a switch and place it
on the front panel.

Paul

To give an example of the strange things that can happen,
consider my Win2K install attempt yesterday.

The disk had a single primary partition, with C: containing Win2K.

I wanted to install a second copy of the OS, clean, with no CODECs
in it. So I could reproduce a problem with "dvdplay.exe".

When I went to install, instead of making a new complete partition,
marking it active, the installer decided instead, to keep the existing
C: as the "boot" solution. So the first partition remained the one
with the active boot flag. The OS installed into a second partition,
with the letter "E:". So my new install was not on C:. The first partition
handles the boot duties. The second partition does not have a
complete set of files either. The pagefile and hiberfil are on
the first partition. Quite possibly the boot.ini is as well.

This made things annoying when installing drivers, because I'd have to
remember that my new partition was E: and not C:.

The installer also made the second partition, a "logical" partition
in an extended. So the partition table had a FAT32 primary partition
for the original C:, plus an extended in which a single logical partition
E: was located. I could undo that with Partition Magic, without
breaking anything. But I stopped there, and did not attempt to make
the second partition the booting partition. Wasn't worth the trouble,
and I was afraid of messing up a partition drive letter dependency
along the way.

So all sorts of things can happen when you do an install, and
what happened there, was not what I wanted at all. But since that
was not a long term setup, it will not be around to annoy me for much
longer. And it did not break the original C:, which still works.

Paul

On 6/8/2012 6:21 PM PT, Paul typed:


Ah. I remember I did that with my Debian new installation to a new SSD,
and it wrote Grub to to my PATA/IDE HDD! No, I did not want that. :(



Heh.



Ah.
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and pick up their dead friends and carry those around. I am pretty sure
it is because they can get in the carpool lane and pass up that line."
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On 6/8/2012 7:47 PM PT, Paul typed:


Ugh, how annoying. :(
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Requires some very serious hacking
just Goolge for it, there are plenty of tutorials.

You'd be way better of trying a Linux live cd

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glee typed:

Naw. piece of cake. Casper does all of the hard work for you. Glen just
likes to rant and show how ignorant he can be. Some people are like that
for some reason. :-(

Boot and Run Your Computer from a USB Drive -- creates a fully
bootable copy of a Windows system drive that can boot and run
directly from an external USB drive. (Note: Requires computer
with BIOS support for booting from USB hard disk type devices.)

http://www.fssdev.com/products/casper/benefits.aspx

--
Bill
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Centrino Core2 Duo T5600 1.83GHz - 2GB - Windows XP SP2

Paul made the statement, you ignorant troll.  All I posted was an LOL to
Paul's comment.  Still have not improved your reading comprehension, I
see.
--
Glen Ventura
MS MVP  Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009
CompTIA A+

glee typed:

I know Paul said it you arrogant ass! And you did not offer to help, but
just laugh like a ranting fool who has nothing to do but to harass
people and to say people said things they did not like an evil little
worthless troll that you are. I never kill filed anybody in my life. But
you are bucking the limit and I might make an exception.

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2
Centrino Core2 Duo T5600 1.83GHz - 2GB - Windows XP SP2

Promises, promises... killfile me so you will stop your trolling,
please!  I laughed at Paul's joke... cannot you even see the smiley he
included indicating his joke?  Geez, you are sad.
Funny, an arrogant ass like yourself calling someone that.  You trolled
me for a week or more over the Office update site and updates, which you
were dead wrong about, and you still went on and on even when confronted
with the facts.  So please, killfile me.... I'd consider it an honor
coming from you.
--
Glen Ventura
MS MVP  Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009
CompTIA A+

glee typed:

You always get things wrong. I was not wrong about supplying a list of
updates for Office 2000. And when I try to help somebody, you try your
best to cause problems by harassing, belittling, lying, and using every
dishonest means at your disposal. But that is what a low life like you
do anyway. So no news there.

--
Bill
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Your troll-fest was not about your list of updates.... it never was,
though that is all you seem to be able to recall... it was about the
Office Update site and the location of Office update downloads *prior
to* Office 2000.  You still have that reading comprehension problem.
I suggest you seek some professional help if you cannot take corrections
without resorting to name calling and slander, which has been you modus
operandi every time someone questions your statements or corrects you.
--
Glen Ventura
MS MVP  Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009
CompTIA A+

glee typed:

Naw. you are just being a dumb ass. That only came up much later. First
was your attack of how useless it was supplying the list of needed
updates. But that is just you trying to be as unhelpful as you can be.

--
Bill
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Personally, I do not care whether he killfiles me or not. I killfile
him, so I do not have to see any of his claptrap unless someone else
quotes him.

Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP

Oh geez, you just go on and on.  I did not say it was a useless list, I
stated that it did not answer the poster's original question, to which
you replied your list was the only easy way to find all the OFF2K
updates, which is incorrect.... and it went on from there, with your
insistence that Windows Update supplied Office Updates for OFF95 and
OFF97... an assertion which is also incorrect, Windows Update never
offered updates to Office products.... yet you argued it ad nauseum.
You keep calling names that just point right back at you.
--
Glen Ventura
MS MVP  Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009
CompTIA A+

glee typed:

Just because you did not understand the OP, does not mean I was wrong. If
I was the OP and asked the same thing, that would have been the answer
that I was looking for. Noticed that the OP has left and has apparently
got what they were looking for and does not want to bother correcting the
likes of you. And I fully understand that.

--
Bill
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Centrino Core2 Duo T5600 1.83GHz - 2GB - Windows XP SP2

Ken Blake, MVP typed:

I would love to killfile some people. But I see killfiling as a sign of
ignorance. As it means you are set in your ways and already know
everything. Thus there is no need to listen to anybody who might
actually know better. And I personally refuse to lower my standards that
low. But I suppose Ken has no problems doing so.

--
Bill
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On 6/9/2012 2:36 AM PT, philo typed:


The problem is that Linux live discs do not come with ATI/AMD's closed
Radeon Catalyst binary drivers which I am trying to test. :(
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is a thin line. And money that might have gone to wages went for gas,
for guns, for agents and spies, for blacklists, for drilling. On the
highways the people moved like ants and searched for work, for food. And
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So, you have a short memory AND reading comprehension issues.
I understood the OP and answered his question, which was: why was he
being offered OFF2007 updates when he had OFF2000... and the answer was
that he had installed the 2007 Compatibility Pack, after which one is
offered updates to OFF 2007 as well as the installed version of Office
itself.  That was his question and that was the answer.

The OP replied tp my post the next day, stated that this was correct and
what he had done.  The OP *never* asked  if the 2007 updates updated
OFF2000.... he asked why they were being offerred and if he should
install them.

Your list of OFF2000 updates had nothing to do with his question.  The
OP never bothered replying to your post, possibly because it was
irrelevant.

...and on and on you go, arguing your own error.
--
Glen Ventura
MS MVP  Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009
CompTIA A+

glee typed:
snip

Are you really that dense, Glen? Why would somebody go to Office
Updates? Let me help you Glen. They would if they wanted to make sure
that their Office was fully up-to-date. And the OP had Office 2000. And
sure Office Updates found that Office 2007 needed updating and ask why
would it say that when they had Office 2000?

Sure there was plenty of answers why updates would say such a thing.
Like having the compatibility pack that was covered by all. But nobody
but me answered what the OP was originally looking for. That was to
update their Office 2000 in the first place. And we know the OP was
looking for Office 2000 because they just did a fresh install of Office
2000. And we know Office Updates do not give a rat's ass about
automatically updating Office 2000 anymore. And it would not tell you a
damn thing about any updates for Office 2000.

But you rather play dumb and harass the people who are doing the
helping. And to beat them to death so they stop doing the real helping
and so everybody can be as dumb as you are. I personally call that just
ignorance and I want no part of that.

--
Bill
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Yes, you have more than enough ignorance on your own.  Playing dumb?
No, I answered the poster's question.  The original poster in that
thread NEVER asked for Office 2000 updates, he asked why he was offered
OFF2007 updates.  He never said he did a fresh install of Office 2000
and was looking for updates to Office 2000.

He stated, and I quote:
a dozen Office 2007 patches / fixes.  Thing is, I have got Office 2000 SR1
premium installed on this thing ....{names of the OFF2007 patches}....
Do I want to download these patches - even though I do not have Office
2007?"

Nothing about a fresh install of Office 2000, no questions about getting
Office 2000 updates.  ALL he asked was why was he offered OFF2007
updates and did he need to install those.

Get over yourself, geez!  And stop wasting everyone's time.
--
Glen Ventura
MS MVP  Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009
CompTIA A+

I suggest you read the original post from that thread again, since you
misunderstood it from day one:
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support/browse_thread/thread/164c1e6e931018cb/427a1fde98fddf?q=group:microsoft.public.windowsxp.general

--
Glen Ventura
MS MVP  Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009
CompTIA A+

If your Linux LiveCD environment supports a "persistent store",
you can use that to store a tainted driver upgrade, between
reboots.

I have a 1GB USB key, with ~700MB of LiveCD read-only files,
and a ~200MB persistent store. But that is too small for practical
work. I would recommend instead, usage of an 8GB USB key, and save
a 4GB section for the persistent store. I think 4GB may be a limit
of the method used.

I think in theory, it is also possible to define a separate
All you need, is the appropriate boot line incantation,
to get the "data partition" used as a persistent store
overlay. My Knoppix disks have some options like that
(disk specification, from boot command line). A
benefit of doing that, is the partition is just a
data partition, and GRUB will not be touching the disk.

Paul

glee typed:

And? What is different than what I said? Office 2000 SR1 is a very
outdated build. The last build was Office 2000 SP3 and a bit more to
follow which I all documented.

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Bill
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Centrino Core2 Duo T5600 1.83GHz - 2GB - Windows XP SP2

What is different, which you STILL do not get, is that his question was
about the OFF2007 updates.
Geez, you are hopeless.
--
Glen Ventura
MS MVP  Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009
CompTIA A+

glee typed:

Yeah I figured you were too dumb to understand. If you have Office 2000
SR1 and being offered Office 2007, what is the deal? What about Office
2000? Yeah I understand, you are just too dumb to understand.

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2
Centrino Core2 Duo T5600 1.83GHz - 2GB - Windows XP SP2

Apparently you are too dumb to understand.  He is offered OFF2007
updates from Microsoft Update, because he has the 2007 Compatibility
Pack installed and OFF2007 is a supported application.  He is not being
offered Office 2000 updates from Microsoft Update because Office 2000 is
not a supported application and Microsoft Update does not supply them via
automatic updates any longer.  His question was about the Office 2007
updates being offered, which you never even addressed.  Just go away and
stop wasting our time, please.
--
Glen Ventura
MS MVP  Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009
CompTIA A+

glee typed:

Yes I understand totally. You just do not get it.


Yes totally, I am light years ahead of you.


I did not offer anything about Office 2007 updates because it was covered
already, dumbass.

Urban Dictionary: dumbass
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dumbass

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Bill
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Did you try reducing acceleration?

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On 6/9/2012 7:28 PM PT, philo typed:


Yes. I have to set to none to avoid the hard crashes. :( Hence why I
want to try clean setups without tampering my current old one.
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